Since I recently came up w/ a new panel idea & this relates, might as well write a “quick” post about it.
One of my favorite debate “tactics” when dealing with fandom related arguments is “your opinion doesn’t count b/c I said it doesn’t”. Not because of something more practical like my statement having shaky logic, I’m misquoting something to ‘support’ my argument, or even whatever I said not being relative to the argument, nope, just “I don’t really have a good point to rebuttal that, so I’m going to use some arbitrary b.s. reason to completely “discredit” your point” ~.~
This is all kinds of no. Basically, the good ‘ol “I can’t possibly be wrong/you can’t possibly be right” logical “fallacy”, where you refuse to admit someone made a good point b/c you’re always right & have perfectly flawless logic (X/). Sometimes, whether you want to admit it or not, someone has a perfectly sound counter argument that you couldn’t possibly argue & you just have to accept that & move on, not go full-on weeaboo manchild & immediately start throwing the weakest of “rebuttals” to defend your honor , you just come across as pathetic manchild of a ‘sore loser’, for lack of a better term.
To sum up the questionable logic as succinctly as possible: I said a particular show generally isn’t a good starter for someone trying to get into anime (AoT/SnK); they said it is; I counter w/ ultra violent shows depicting violence towards/maiming of children in fact isn’t a good series to get ppl. into anime; (their weaksauce reply?) well, live action stuff is violent (which, therefore, makes violent anime totally OK as a starter series) so my point is moot.
Just…just, no. This logic is all kinds of wrong, so I don’t even know where to begin. For starters, you’re implying that all current anime fans like violent anime, those yet to be indoctrinated generally won’t mind violence (esp. violence against children), & that violence is a universally accepted thing in which everyone loves & enjoys violent shows, which is wrong on multiple fronts. Not everyone enjoys violent live action medium in general, not everyone partakes in violent anime, everyone doesn’t enjoy children being maimed, etc., etc. It’s about as out of touch a rebuttal a weeaboo can give X/ Like, this man is educated, they should know better, & the best he could muster was “well…I don’t really have a good counter to that so…your argument is now invalid for raisins..?”. If you don’t have a good counter, accept it & move on, don’t dig yourself into a deeper hole & come across as an uneducated weeaboo elitist.
Like I stated before, the logic “your point doesn’t count b/c I said so” is about as weak an argument as you can give, besides the “precious perfect series” logic, & it’s shameful to see someone celebrated as being super educated & knowing his way around anime use such a…a…dumb defense for their point. It’s truly pathetic.
In other words, don’t do this kids. You come off looking incredibly stupid, elitist, a total weeaboo, & like you don’t know your head from your arse when it comes to academic debates. Refusing to accept someone’s rebuttal does not discredit their point, it just shows how immature you are.